In a dramatic and testy exchange Wednesday, Wisconsin Sen. Ron Johnson and
Secretary of State Hillary Clinton sparred over the administration's handling
of last fall's attack on a U.S. diplomatic post in Libya -- in particular, the
way the attacks were initially portrayed to the public.
It was Johnson's first hearing as a member of the Senate Foreign
Relations Committee, and in an interview with the Journal Sentinel following
the exchange, he accused Clinton of dodging his questions and engaging in
theatrics.
"I was a little surprised at her reaction," Johnson said. "She simply
couldn't respond to a pretty simple question."
Clinton for her part denied that the administration tried to mislead the
country on the Sept. 11 attack in Benghazi that killed Chris Stevens, the U.S.
ambassador to Libya, and three other Americans. She insisted the State
Department is moving swiftly and aggressively to strengthen security at
diplomatic posts worldwide. And she suggested that Johnson and other
Republicans are excessively preoccupied with the question of how U.S.
officials framed the incident.
Questioning Clinton at the hearing, Johnson accused U.N. Ambassador Susan
Rice of "purposefully misleading the American public" about the episode and
argued that the true nature of the attack could have been quickly determined
by interviewing evacuees.
"We were misled that there were supposedly protests and that something
sprang out of that, an assault sprang out of that, and that was easily
ascertained that that was not the fact, and the American people could have
known that within days and they didn't know that," said Johnson at the
hearing.
Her voice rising, Clinton replied: "With all due respect, the fact is we
had four dead Americans. Was it because of a protest or was it because of guys
out for a walk one night who decided that they'd they go kill some Americans?
What difference at this point does it make? It is our job to figure out what
happened and do everything we can to prevent it from ever happening again,
senator.
"Now honestly, I will do my best to answer your questions about this, but
the fact is that people were trying in real time to get to the best
information. The I.C. (Intelligence Community) has a process I understand
going with the other committees to explain how these talking points came out.
But you know, to be clear it is from my perspective less important today
looking backwards as to why these militants decided they did it than to find
them and bring them to justice, and then maybe we'll figure out what was going
on the meantime."
Johnson criticized Clinton afterward for suggesting it made little
difference at this point what the intentions of the attackers were.
"I think it matters an awful lot when an administration is not truthful
to the American public," Johnson said, adding that the Benghazi incident was
downplayed as an act of terrorism because "they had this narrative that they
had gotten Bin Laden and that all was well and that al-Qaida was on the run
and that President Obama's policies in the Middle East were playing out
beautifully."
Defiant, fiery
In 5 { hours of testimony before the Senate committee and, later, the
House Foreign Affairs Committee, the secretary of state was at times defiant
and fiery, at other times conciliatory.
She once again took responsibility for the department's missteps and
failures leading up to the assault. But she also said that requests for more
security at the diplomatic mission in Benghazi didn't reach her desk, and she
reminded lawmakers that they have a responsibility to fund security-related
budget requests.
Her voice cracking at one point, Clinton said the attack and the
aftermath were highly personal tragedies for the families of the victims who
died -- Stevens, Sean Smith, Tyrone Woods and Glen Doherty -- as well as
herself.
"I stood next to President Obama as the Marines carried those flag-draped
caskets off the plane at Andrews. I put my arms around the mothers and
fathers, sisters and brothers, sons and daughters and the wives left alone to
raise their children," she told the Senate committee.
Johnson was not alone in clashing with Clinton and accusing the State
Department of ignoring danger signs, being unprepared for developments in the
region, and mishandling the Benghazi incident. She notably ignored Sen. Rand
Paul (R-Ky.) when he said he would have fired her if he had been in charge and
found that she had not read cables from her team in Libya asking for more
security.
Later, before the House Foreign Affairs Committee, Republican Rep. Jeff
Duncan of South Carolina repeatedly challenged Clinton's claim to have looked
at the tragedy with "clear eyes," saying she should have personally ensured
security at the mission.
He said Clinton had "let the consulate become a death trap" in denying
requests for additional security and called it "malpractice."
Clinton is stepping down as secretary of state, which made her testimony
affairs among her last major public appearances in that role.
By contrast, it was Johnson's first appearance on the Foreign Relations
Committee, since he just joined the panel this year after leaving the
appropriations panel. Johnson was elected in 2010.
"This was my first (foreign relations) hearing," Johnson said. "It was
somewhat interesting."
The Associated Press contributed to this report.
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Clinton, Johnson Butt Heads Over Benghazi Attack
Jan. 24, 2013
Craig Gilbert
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